Monday, March 23, 2020

Ministers bring people off formality.

Pr. Here he ſaith, We do utterly deny all their ways and doćtrines who exclude all teachings of men. See page 5.

Anſ. Contrary to the Prophets, who bid people to ceaſe from men whoſe breath was in their noſtrils, therefore there is a teaching beyond it: And who comes to that, ſhall come to heir the Son: And the Apoſtles went to bring people off, to the end of the Prophets, and off of the Prieſts, and off the ordinances which the Prophets had eſtablished in their place, and the Lord is come to teach his people himſelfe, where they need not ſay, know the Lord in the new covenant.

pg. 32

Friday, February 28, 2020

Apparel Distinguishes the Quality of the Person.

Pr. They say, That apparell is for diśtinćtion of qualities of perſons, &c. See page 36.

Anſ. That is but in the world; for that which diſtinguiſhes perſons is the Word, the perſon of Chriſt from the perſons of Adam in the fall, and who be in the transgreſſion, and who be out of it; and who be veſſels of honour and diſhonour; and your wearing of gold and coſtly apparell, it diſtinguiſheth you from the Apoſtles doćtrine. And the holy women of old which was honourable, it was not the apparell that made them ſo to be, but the hidden man of the heart which was of great price to the Lord, which were brought to do the command of God: That honour which is in the world for cloaths and reſpećt, God will stain, which stands the worlds honour in tranſgreſſion.

pg. 25

Bring off the Form

Pr. They ſay, that the power to juſtle out the forme is an errour, &c. ſee page 24.

Answ. Which was the Apoſtles work to bring off the form into the power, the subſtance Chriſt, which was not an errour: But you being in the errour, keep people into forms out of the power, and ſo not in the Apoſtles work.

Thursday, February 13, 2020

George Fox and Reflection on others

Pr. He ſaith, His Epistle reflects upon two ſorts of perſons, and how many falſe Prophets have riſen.

Anſ. The work of the Miniſters of the Goſpel was not to reflect upon perſons, or strike at creatures (as thou fayeſt) two ſorts of perſons; but they struck at the power which captivated the creature, to the intent that the creature might come into the liberty of the ſons of God: And ſo thou that art reflecting upon perſons, doſt ſhew a marke of thy ſelſe to be a falſe Prophet; in ſtead of ſpeaking of the power, thou art reflecting upon perſons; and this reflecting upon perſons was never the way to beget to God; but that which ſtrikes at the power which captivates creatures, reacheth to the witneſſe in priſon, and brings people into unity with God and one another in the ſpirit, which is the bond of peace.

Source: The Great Mystery of the Great Whore, 1659, pg. 237 (x-reference with Leslie's The Snake in the Grass. Second Edition. 1697. pg. 196 ).

Sunday, August 25, 2019

It was not the intent of the Spirit that a people would not need other people to teach them

Pr. He saith,  the Apostle never bred up any that they needed no man to teach them, page 53.

Answ. And so giveth John the lye, who saith,  Ye need no man to teach you, but as the same anointing teacheth you: And the Apostle, who saith; ye need not say every man to his neighbour, know the Lord, &c. and denies the effectual work of the new Covenant. But all shall know him from the least to the greatest, Hebr.

Source: The Great Mystery of the Great Whore, by George Fox, pg. 7 London, 1659.

Ministrial Gifts

Pr. And he saith, Ministeriall gifts are not now to be found in the world, such as the Ministers of the gospel had in the Primitive time.

Answ. Therefore no such ministerial work now as was then, nor any such officers as Pastors, Teachers, &c. as were then!

Answ. He hath preached himselfe to be one of the false spirits which went forth from the Apostles into the world: And yet he saith, Christ is with them to the end of the world. And yet saith there is no hearing of his voyce, nor seeing him, nor handling him; so he hath confounded himself, and shewed to all that he hath quenched the spirit among you all.

Source: The Great Mystery of the Great Whore, by George Fox, pg. 6. London, 1659.

The Nature of the Gospel

Pr. He saith,  Is not the gospel an external way, &c.?

Answ. No, the Gospel is a living way which is revealed within, and is the power of God to salvation.

Source: The Great Mystery of the Great Whore, by George Fox. Pg. 6. London. 1659.

Ministers bring people off formality.

Pr. Here he ſaith, We do utterly deny all their ways and doćtrines who exclude all teachings of men. See page 5. Anſ. Contrary to the ...